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klenaAll nighter hurray!
Let's actually see if I can do it. I only have one class tomorrow so it's not too bad. I guess.
Fucking English essay. I don't know if the thread of my thoughts corresponds to the question I want to do. Bastarding "Great Expectations". D:
Dicken’s characters have no mental life. They say perfectly the thing they have to say, but they cannot be conceived as talking about anything else. They never learn, never speculate.” (Orwell). Does Great Expectations support this claim?
(use the idea of society has become a commodity and thus so too have the characters that live within the world?)
Idea of progression. Do people progress in "Great Exp"?
- Mrs. Joe ends up repenting towards her death (and yet the change in her was enforced through violence, not through personal growth)
- Biddy and Joe don't really need to progress. They seem content with their lives and the way they are.
- Ms. Havisham. Fucked up in the brain. Twisted Estella into a commodity - a vessel of her broken heart and venom. She was destroyed by her non-wedding day and refers to her broken heart. To an extent she realises that she has destroyed Estella and Estella's heart in a *bad* way but is there repentance? Also when she goes on fire - suicide? Does she actually learn from her mistake?
- Estella. Estella. Star. Cold and beautiful and heartless. Refers to herself as "empty" (?) and yet is honest about herself. She feels no particular desire to progress as she is what she was made to be. She seems almost fine with being a commodity. And yet (depending on ending) she does change. Very quickly it almost seems. She suffers and progresses under the hands of Drummle.
- - And yet this final change is very reliant on which ending the reader prefers and how the ending is taken.
(First ending; for, in her face and in her voice, and in her touch, she gave me the assurance, that suffering had been stronger than Miss Havisham's teachings, and had given her a heart to understand what my heart used to be - More realistic?)
(Idea of suffering being transgressive? Gaiman <3 - Sometimes, perhaps, one must change or die. And, in the end, there were, perhaps limits to how much he could let himself change.)
- Pip. Unsure of how I feel about him. He's a bit of a reject to me - what with Estella and his attitude and his denial/distancing of his former life once he reaches London. He does progress but *I don't really care*. He is a commodity of both Pumblechook and Magwitch. He desires something (Estella) but....
- - - (Gaiman quote maybe? But the price of getting what you want is getting what you once wanted. How could I use that?)
He never becomes a gentleman as a gentleman does not have to work and Pip ends up having to do just that. His Great Expectations come of naught. Magwitch's death undoes Pip as it was Magwitch's labour that made Pip a gentleman. Also idea of being a gentleman is to be free - being Magwitch's commodity undoes this, does it not?
Bollocks. Still not sure where I'm going with this.
Pointers? Is all the above bollocks?
Let's actually see if I can do it. I only have one class tomorrow so it's not too bad. I guess.
Fucking English essay. I don't know if the thread of my thoughts corresponds to the question I want to do. Bastarding "Great Expectations". D:
Dicken’s characters have no mental life. They say perfectly the thing they have to say, but they cannot be conceived as talking about anything else. They never learn, never speculate.” (Orwell). Does Great Expectations support this claim?
(use the idea of society has become a commodity and thus so too have the characters that live within the world?)
Idea of progression. Do people progress in "Great Exp"?
- Mrs. Joe ends up repenting towards her death (and yet the change in her was enforced through violence, not through personal growth)
- Biddy and Joe don't really need to progress. They seem content with their lives and the way they are.
- Ms. Havisham. Fucked up in the brain. Twisted Estella into a commodity - a vessel of her broken heart and venom. She was destroyed by her non-wedding day and refers to her broken heart. To an extent she realises that she has destroyed Estella and Estella's heart in a *bad* way but is there repentance? Also when she goes on fire - suicide? Does she actually learn from her mistake?
- Estella. Estella. Star. Cold and beautiful and heartless. Refers to herself as "empty" (?) and yet is honest about herself. She feels no particular desire to progress as she is what she was made to be. She seems almost fine with being a commodity. And yet (depending on ending) she does change. Very quickly it almost seems. She suffers and progresses under the hands of Drummle.
- - And yet this final change is very reliant on which ending the reader prefers and how the ending is taken.
(First ending; for, in her face and in her voice, and in her touch, she gave me the assurance, that suffering had been stronger than Miss Havisham's teachings, and had given her a heart to understand what my heart used to be - More realistic?)
(Idea of suffering being transgressive? Gaiman <3 - Sometimes, perhaps, one must change or die. And, in the end, there were, perhaps limits to how much he could let himself change.)
- Pip. Unsure of how I feel about him. He's a bit of a reject to me - what with Estella and his attitude and his denial/distancing of his former life once he reaches London. He does progress but *I don't really care*. He is a commodity of both Pumblechook and Magwitch. He desires something (Estella) but....
- - - (Gaiman quote maybe? But the price of getting what you want is getting what you once wanted. How could I use that?)
He never becomes a gentleman as a gentleman does not have to work and Pip ends up having to do just that. His Great Expectations come of naught. Magwitch's death undoes Pip as it was Magwitch's labour that made Pip a gentleman. Also idea of being a gentleman is to be free - being Magwitch's commodity undoes this, does it not?
Bollocks. Still not sure where I'm going with this.
Pointers? Is all the above bollocks?
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Date: 2006-10-25 09:01 am (UTC)Is it worth throwing in contemporary references?
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